tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14231145.post3036506210378498732..comments2023-12-30T23:02:57.931-08:00Comments on Deep Thought: Success should be rewarded, not punished. And as Democrats we should remember that, especially regarding Chairman DeanEli Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00792743206074537073noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14231145.post-2425086695518818512009-01-24T22:28:00.000-08:002009-01-24T22:28:00.000-08:00Paul Krugman said it was imperative to have voices...Paul Krugman said it was imperative to have voices outside this administration giving criticism and counsel if it was to succeed.<BR/><BR/>Rahm and whoever else was at the center of this debacle may have done the party a real favor. By drawing a line in the sand, they've challenged us to work even harder to keep them honest.<BR/><BR/>Since this thread was originally posted, Obama and Kaine have both publicly stated that the 50 state strategy remains in effect.<BR/><BR/>Challenge noted and effectively parlayed.sandyhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13953353795729444943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14231145.post-10440898286674950592009-01-20T17:27:00.000-08:002009-01-20T17:27:00.000-08:00cpmaz:I don't know of any such item on the agenda....cpmaz:<BR/><BR/>I don't know of any such item on the agenda. It would certainly be appropriate, though now resolutions have to be submitted to the resolutions committee, you can no longer bring them from the floor.<BR/><BR/>That's not to say that people can't speak their minds though, especially in regard to asking directly whether candidates for party office support a continuation of the fifty state strategy.Eli Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00792743206074537073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14231145.post-48254209510729133812009-01-18T22:12:00.000-08:002009-01-18T22:12:00.000-08:00Eli - do you know of any plans to bring forth a mo...Eli - do you know of any plans to bring forth a motion at next week's meeting of the State Committee to thank Governor Dean?<BR/><BR/>The only items on any agenda that I can find concern officer elections.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03338682971485143332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14231145.post-70901489044728595932009-01-16T13:48:00.000-08:002009-01-16T13:48:00.000-08:00Super Conductor:idiot.Maybe what Rahm and Obama di...Super Conductor:<BR/><BR/>idiot.<BR/><BR/>Maybe what Rahm and Obama did was classless but that isn't the same thing as suggesting that they (or Kaine) are open to failure.<BR/><BR/>After the economic, foreign policy and environmental failures of the last eight years, any more failure is simply not an option at this time.<BR/><BR/>And Howard Dean will shake this off and be just fine. Democracy For America isn't going to go away and they will be holding the President's feet to the fire. He knows that in order to have an obstacle free run to renomination in four years he has to stay true to the base. At worst this was a stupid an d petty move by Rahm, but it doesn't indicate incompetence or inability to handle a situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14231145.post-21766918065624814712009-01-14T21:30:00.000-08:002009-01-14T21:30:00.000-08:00Success should be rewarded, not punished?I agree.B...Success should be rewarded, not punished?<BR/><BR/>I agree.<BR/><BR/>But you're a Democrat. Democrats always want to punish success and reward failure. If Howard Dean wanted to be given accolades then he should have sat on his duff and lose elections by trying to micromanage everything and doing everything with pollsters and focus groups like Terry McAuliffe did.<BR/><BR/>Since he did succeed at the DNC, he is clearly a mismatch for the Democratic party. <BR/><BR/>But I'm sure that Tim Kaine will return the DNC to it's previous level of incompetence and failure, so that Howard Dean will just be a distant memory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14231145.post-80671643148139214452009-01-13T21:45:00.000-08:002009-01-13T21:45:00.000-08:00And Mike:I agree that Rahm had a lot to do with th...And Mike:<BR/><BR/>I agree that Rahm had a lot to do with this. And it was totally unnecessary. Chairman Dean was going to be leaving anyway, there was no reason at all to publically try to humiliate him this way.Eli Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00792743206074537073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14231145.post-76245101962946646082009-01-13T21:44:00.000-08:002009-01-13T21:44:00.000-08:00Sandyh:Exactly. I'm not sure what kind of 'favor' ...Sandyh:<BR/><BR/>Exactly. I'm not sure what kind of 'favor' the President-elect is looking to curry with the right by insulting Chairman Dean, but I am sure that there is a lot more anger over this simmering underneath the surface than meets the eye. A lot of the same people who worked their rear ends off for Obama are the same ones who worked the same behind off four years earlier for Howard Dean. And after years of complaining about how the Republicans had run circles around us in terms of strategy, we finally get someone at the DNC who kicks their butt and what is his reward?<BR/><BR/>Do we want to go back to the era of the Ed Rendells and the Terry McAuliffes, guys who always seemed to be a step behind the GOP?Eli Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00792743206074537073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14231145.post-53775707915901292902009-01-12T23:25:00.000-08:002009-01-12T23:25:00.000-08:00What an arrogant prick! This has Rahm's fingerprin...What an arrogant prick! This has Rahm's fingerprints all over it. And mentioning Rahm in the same sentence as he is supposedly praising Dean is worse than if he'd said nothing at all.<BR/><BR/>If anyone has earned some respect in the party it's Howard Dean.<BR/><BR/>I'm almost sorry I voted for Obama. I hope this isn't a sign of things to come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14231145.post-55623756308139704022009-01-11T21:22:00.000-08:002009-01-11T21:22:00.000-08:00Obama seems to have surrounded himself with people...Obama seems to have surrounded himself with people who have chips on their shoulder. It's getting him into trouble with the very people he needs to succeed.<BR/><BR/>I'm not too sure exactly who in his inner circle wrote off on that statement, but they sure have a lot of influence over Obama. I assume that when Michelle is not so wrapped up in getting their children settled that she will intervene if this pattern continues to develop. <BR/><BR/>It's the little things that count. It's all little things in life. Let's hope Obama learns quickly that this is true even in the White House bubble.<BR/><BR/>He doesn't have much time to make the progress that is expected. Sure, the economic meltdown and bailout dictate that the emphasis must change somewhat. But people want real change.<BR/><BR/>The 2010 election cycle has already begun. Nowhere is it written that you can hold onto a majority in Washington or the power it gives you for more than two years. You must earn it... and the respect of those with whom you must share it.<BR/><BR/>I will presume that Obama had bigger things on his mind than whether Gov. Dean would be out of town or feel slighted by the wording of that statement. This was was just a mis-step on his part? <BR/><BR/>You need to learn to walk, Mr. President-Elect. But be careful of whose hand you are holding as you take those important first steps.<BR/><BR/>We like you. But maybe not so much? Remember that? All those HillRaisers who voted for you remember it well. You were the second choice of most of your hardest working supporters.<BR/><BR/>You need to make friends within the family not just outside.sandyhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13953353795729444943noreply@blogger.com